On Tuesday 03 December 2002 16:59, Joey wrote:
> Unfortunately, Linux/Unix programmers WILL NOT use a simple/common word
> when a much more complicated one will do. I personally think it's to show
> off to everyone that they went to college and learned something.
Actually, that comment reminds me a lot of most Java developers ;) Talking
J2EE for any length of time makes me feel like a masters student discussing
theory for my thesis.
> The man pages are properly titled "Programmers manual pages." I shared and
> to some extent, still do your frustrations with man pages. These clowns,
> (the Unix/Linux documentation guys), gripe about Mickeysoft but you can't
> get them to write a simple explanation of how a process should be
> configured and what the da** arguments mean and do to the command.
Right. But the source exists. I don't mind reading a bit of C code to figure
out some cryptic command arguments, but I really hate undocumented arguments
on closed-source code ("fdisk /mbr" anyone?)
> If the hard core Unix/Linux guys disagree with me, just try to justify "vi"
> or a "sendmail" configuration as being anything other than a pain in the
> a**.
>
> BTW, I have been using UNIX for 20 years and there are still quite a few
> things I still do not like, vi being the first.
20 years? Woah. You have me beat by quite a few.
I'm really only running on a minimal subset of vi commands - you don't really
need more than a dozen basic things for 99% of your daily work
(ESC,h,j,k,l,cntl-f,cnt-b,G,:0,yy,dd,P,O,o,A,a,I,i,:w,:q,:wq!,:set
noai,":.,$s/", plus any of these prefixed by a number). Anything more, and I
typically do a bit of ksh/bash scripting with sed and/or perl.
Far fewer keystrokes than fighting with a barren shell like cmd.exe with an
environment that makes gratuitous use of arrow keys, pg-up/pg-down, and/or
fancy alt-keybindings (emacs, eek! ;)
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