I had given up on Debian awhile back but, for all those out there like me(non 
geek  and using linux  and dont really care to learn command line etc) I have 
found a really easy and good distro. Libranet! 
I downloaded 2.0 and installed it no sweat, actually easier than Storm 
(remember that?) Anyway 2.0 is the older version current is 2.7 and 2.8 is 
due out in a few weeks, I mention that because only the older version is free 
for download, 1 cd is the whole thing.
Well to get to the reason for this post, I couldnt use apt-get properly and a 
few other apps caused me to give up on Debian. With Libranet all this is 
easy, so easy that I have managed to get the installed 2.0 upgraded to kde 
3.0.5 and the system updated to the Debian sid ( sid is the newest non 
released version-- still in testing) and it wasnt hard at all, not if I did 
it. 
The Libranet web page has a forums page and the register for forums is free 
but not necessary. With the help of the forums I was able to follow the easy 
directions and accomplish the upgrades. All the information was provided in 
simple everyday english---not geektalk-- and there were no "rtfm".
There was a ton of help available, for free, and with that I accomplished a 
good install and easy update.
If there is anyone that wants to try Debian I think this is the way to go, 
because if I can do it ---it must be easy. To top it off I am learning Debian 
now and eve using the c-line and dont even mind. I am even having fun, when 
was the last time you heard that about Debian?
In case anyone wants to try the info is here
http://libranet.com
SuSE is now just sitting there because I am using Libranet, and looks like I 
may just become a Debian user. Just wanted to let anyone that was interested 
know in case there was anybody out there not using Debian because "it is hard 
to install/update" . The forums were a great help in easy to understand 
style.
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