RE: [SLUG] Entertainment / software piracy may have just gottenlots cheaper...

From: Eric Jahn (eric@ejahn.net)
Date: Sat May 17 2003 - 11:59:32 EDT


If I'm aggressive about it, I could already use my netflix account to
aquire about 20 DVDs for about $20/month subscription (including
postage). I could then distribute them free via p2p software, so the
tools and content is already available to do lots of piracy, if one so
chooses...

On Sat, 2003-05-17 at 10:46, Josh Tiner wrote:
> You got it Steven! These EZ-D discs are targeted at the people that at
> one time used to go to the brick and mortar rental shacks to scarf up
> movies. Now the industry is trying to make it more "convenient" for Joe
> Consumer who hates having to rewind and/or pay for late fees and
> scratched disks. I would imagine the price is going to be comparable to
> a rental too - somewhere in the neighborhood of $5 maybe? Who knows for
> sure...
>
> Then there is this whole issue of recycling! Eww! As if that makes a
> difference. Really this is going to have to major negative effects.
>
> 1.) The Hollywood types will suffer even more when the ripper kids get a
> hold of these cheap disks.
>
> and..
>
> 2.) There will be so much un-recycled garbage EZ-D disks it'll make all
> the AOL junk mail disks look like a joke.
>
> You know something else... I try to run the scenario over and over again
> in my head on how the movie and music business will ever be able to be
> the way it once was since the advent of rippers, encoders, p2p sharing
> programs, etal. I just can't see it... These guys are basically screwed
> as far as I can tell. Even if they were to find some kick ass encryption
> algorithm or disks that explode after their first use or WHATEVER -
> there are still good ol' fashioned RCA cables and line-in jacks for the
> ripping if it ever came to that. I feel almost as sorry for the
> entertainment moguls as I do some of the unemployed techs out
> there....../almost/.
>
> -jtiner
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: slug@lists.nks.net [mailto:slug@lists.nks.net] On Behalf Of
> > Steven Buehler
> > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:42 AM
> > To: slug@nks.net
> > Subject: RE: [SLUG] Entertainment / software piracy may have just
> > gottenlots cheaper...
> >
> > > I read the article, and to me, this just help companies like
> > > netflix that distribute media via the mail as a blockbuster
> > > brick and mortar
> > > replacement. I don't see how it hurts the entertainment
> > > industry or helps piracy. Please clue me in as to my
> > > short-sightedness. -eric
> >
> > I'll clue ya in. :-)
> >
> > EZ-D is likely to be produced and marketed at a lower price point
> > (read:
> > It's cheaper!) than conventional DVDs. Any user with a DVD
> > reader/burner
> > and the appropriate software can easily copy the EZ-D to a
> > conventional DVD
> > long before the 48 hours expires.
> >
> > DVD piracy just got a lot cheaper, not that I personally endorse the
> > practice (the closest I get is that I may extract the soundtrack from
> > a DVD
> > I already own to listen to in the car or something (my own personal
> > use),
> > which is a generally accepted practice in the industry).
> >
> > SWB



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