IMH(unsolicited)O:
I belive $39 is a fair price for the SUSE distro, considering all that
you get with it. I have bought and used the SUSE distro for over three years
and with only a few exceptions, every install has been smooth. Though I
don't consider myself a newbie anymore, I am not a hacker. It will take
commericial backing, making the insttalls idiot-proof to unseat M$. I think
Linux is well on it's way to do just that too. Besides, it's nice to get
printed manuals to make notes in. I haven't really checked lately, but SUSE
was the only distro that supplied them in addition to the free Technical
support for 90 days after registration. Not bad for $39 ($79 for the
"professional" version.
>On Sunday 18 May 2003 02:02 pm, R.G. Mayhue wrote:
> On Sunday 18 May 2003 10:14 am, Steven Buehler wrote:
> > ---[Quoting...]---
> > I used the word *distro* in my repy because I believe in your example
> > above you picked the name SuSE because you must not like the idea that
> > SuSE charges
> > for their distro and makes no ISO's available for download. Although I
> > personally do not use SuSE myself, I must at least say that they have
> > every right under the GPL to do what they do.
> > ---[End Quote]---
> >
> > Actually, you *can* do a network-based install of SuSE and have the
> > installer download the packages from a mirror site for no charge; you
> > just don't get the proprietary stuff that they're not allowed to provide
> > for free.
>
> Yes, but as I said, they make no ISO's available for download. At least not
> for the current version if they do at all. Most other commcerial Linux
> venders do. I say most because some only make ISO's available during beta
> testing cycles. AFAIK SuSE doesn't even do that. Not a big deal to me. I
> use Gentoo anyway :)
>
> I've tried the SuSE FTP installs a couple of times in the past and never
> really had good luck with it. Mostly things not being installed right and X
> related stuff mainly because SuSE does sort of a pre-install with a reboot
> to get X going. Seemed to always fsck things up during the FTP install
> process.
>
> I might be going out on a limb here but it seemed to me at the time as if
> they fsck it up intentionally so it wouldn't work right and you end up
> buying the release anyway. But then emotions were running kinda high when
> it didn't work right and I'm not ruling out the fact that it could have
> just been me in all my infinite wisdom fscking it up. I'm certinally not
> beyond any of that :))
>
> Distro's like Debian and Gentoo seem to get the downloadable install thing
> right because they'er non-commercial community oriented distro's and as
> such they've been designed with that install method in mind from the get
> go.
>
> <shameless Gentoo plug>
> I've been using Gentoo daily for well over a year now and it seems to be
> headed in the right direction for me. It has had it's ups and downs but I
> just love the flexibility Gentoo gives me when building and installing the
> system. Plus with Portage keeping it up to date is a snap! Its not for
> everyone though. Gentoo is a young distro and still has plenty of growing
> pains. To me though, its all worth it :)
> </shameless Gentoo plug>
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