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On Sunday 24 August 2003 12:33, Mike wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:43:05 -0400
>
> "Robin 'Roblimo' Miller" <robin@roblimo.com> wrote:
> > >I agree satellite is really expensive, and the speed sucks. I looked
> > > into while stuck on dialup in NY. iirc the cheapest for service was
> > > like 70$/month, and 600$ for installation. (Unless you use a dialup
> > > line to send, the system has to be pro installed because you are
> > > sending info to the satellite) worhtless. Vonage sounds like a great
> > > idea, and actually cheaper than what i was gonna say. I have verizon
> > > for my local and long distance, but pay 65$ (i think) flat rate for any
> > > call, anywhere, anytime. If you want the name of the plan let me know.
> >
> > I used to use Vonage for long distance and RR for Internet, but I'm now
> > 100% Verizon. Why? Money + reliability. My *total* bill this month, for
> > local phone service, unlimited U.S. long distance, every add-on phone
> > feature known to the human race *and DSL*, was $104.14.
> >
> > Vonage was ~$40/month. The sound quality was passable, but Verizon's is
> > much better for about the same price, and Verizon's international
> > calling rates are lower. The rest of my phone bill, including all the
> > add-on services, brings my total voice commo charges up to ~$55/month.
> >
> > RR Internet service was noticeably faster than DSL when everything was
> > working right and the loop wasn't crowded, but slower when things
> > weren't working right or the loop was saturated. On the whole, I find
> > DSL more satisfactory. And both are "plug and play"' installs these days
> > either directly to your computer or, in my case, through a Netgear
> > WAP/router combo (that also has a built-in hardware firewall). And the
> > DSL part of my phone bill is $35/month, which is $10 less than RR.
> >
> > The balance of the bill -- the difference between the ~$85 you'll get if
> > you add up the above figures, and the ~$104 actual total, is taxes and
> > other mandated add-on fees that cable companies and Vonage aren't forced
> > to levy. (I'm not one of the "ask not what I can do for my country, but
> > how much my country can do for me and how little I can do in return"
> > people, so I don't really mind helping to pay for things like 911
> > service, low-cost local service, and generally doing my share to support
> > local, state, and federal government.)
> >
> > Anyway, taxes and all, I am getting better service per dollar on both
> > voice and data transmission from Verizon than I've ever gotten before,
> > either through a single supplier or through a combination of suppliers.
> >
> > Another factor for me, since my phone and Internet sevices are an
> > employer-paid business expense, is that I turn in one bill a month
> > instead of three separate ones. Even if you are using these services on
> > your own dime, if you are doing *any* amount of work at home, your
> > telecom services are tax deductible, and once again, saving one bill per
> > month is a lot more convenient than saving three.
> >
> > I don't love Verizon. But I have even less love for AOL Time Warner, and
> > I'm neutral toward Vonage, so I have no major moral qualms one way or
> > another that influence my telecom provider choices. If AT&T or MCI or
> > whomever offered me a better price, and similar reliability and billing
> > convenience to what I've been getting from Verizon, I'd change
> > providers in a heartbeat. That's what the free market competition is all
> > about. And I'm glad to see that it's finally having some major effects
> > on both voice and data commo services!
> >
> > - Robin
>
> Unfortuneatly, where I am in Oldsmar, I don't qualify for DSL. I looked
> into it. On the plus side though, my loop for rr is pretty light. (there
> don't seem to be alot of people hooked up around here, as I've never
> experienced a slow down) Not sure if this is true or not, sense I'm coming
> form dial-up it all seems fast lol. Maybe once we move, i'll look into DSL
> again. Tampabay DSL seemed to have descent prices. THere is also another
> DSL provider that offers service around here (they only use one office
> though so availability is small). THey have 1mb/1mb for 100$ a month with a
> static ip. I found them through dslreports.com.
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