On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 09:15, Chad Perrin wrote:
> The fact that I tend to agree with you about much of Red Hat's business
> practices and support of the community doesn't change the fact that it's
> absurd for you to turn discussions of Debian, SuSE, et cetera into
> billboards for advertising your favorite distribution.
I don't think the discussion was _on_ Debian, but what someone could do
with a 64MB system. You offered Debian. That was fine. I didn't
disagree with that at all.
But how my offering a _specific_ GUI that runs will in 64MB on ~200MHz
by installing Fedora Core 2 a "billboard for advertising [my] favorite
distribution" any more than your offer of Debian?
> Who said anything about "no one" paying attention to you? Not I,
> surely. I said only that "people" (meaning some, not all, people) would
> probably pay you more attention if (et cetera). This was in response to
> your own complaints that we didn't pay attention to your much-vaunted
> first person experience.
I wrote _2_ sentences in my _2nd_ post that _two_ people quoted.
In fact, my first 2 posts that precede all the non-sense were
_very_ "on-point." Don't want to re-read them? Here we go ...
Response #1 (_including_ quotes):
Bill Glidden wrote:
> Along these same lines, I just inherited a 500Mhz Celeron with
64MB of RAM. Should I get more memory or will this suffice?
On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 10:29, Chad Perrin wrote:
> Debian'll install (and run) on that just fine. Heh.
> I guess it depends on what you're going to do with the box once
> you get it running.
Starting with Red Hat CL4 (Fedora Core 2-4/RHEL 4), Red Hat includes
XFCE as a standard GUI option. Shortly after Fedora Core 2 was
released, Alan Cox boasted he was running Fedora Core 2 on a 225MHz
IDT WinChip2 with 48MB of RAM.
But in a nutshell, memory is far more important than clock. I'd
rather have a 1GHz P3 with 1GB of RAM than a 3.2GHz P4 with 256MB of
RAM -- 10-fold. Heck, I/O is more important than CPU these days, even
on desktops.
Response #2 (top posted response to your installer comment):
Red Hat purposely overstates for the "worst possibility."
Even 24MB is definitely doable if swap is created.
Now if those are "tangents" (especially answering your "question" on the
installer requirements), then I'm _guilty_ as charged!
> Insinuating that I've said nothing you say is of value is a cheap
> tactic, and I suspect nobody on this list is so stupid as to fall for it.
Dude, re-read the thread. Look at how _you_ approached and _you_ took
it for a "wild ride," even though I _tried_ to be "short and sweet" on
_technical_specifics_.
Also note that I don't start accusing you until you start accusing me.
Not that it matters "who starts it," because we _all_lose_!
> Wheee. So, now, I'm not allowed to question information that isn't
> evident? Is that it?
Re-read the thread.
> Is this about ME now? ... cut ...
Apparently we can't "just get along." So I'm not responding to you
anymore. I'm not even going to look at this anymore, because it's only
going to hurt the list.
Let's just make it a rule not to respond to each other. I'm stay clear
of threads you post in. E.g., in this thread, since you posted first, I
would have _not_ interjected my $0.02 on XFCE/Fedora, or even the
memory/CPU comment.
I'll just stay clear because it's apparent we can't respect each other
enough. Fair?
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