On 4/28/05, Dylan Hardison <dylanwh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/28/05, Robert Snyder <robertsnyder@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 4/27/05, Paul M Foster <paulf@quillandmouse.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 10:10:18PM -0400, Dylan Hardison wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The next logical step is to replace the SLUG webpage with that,
> > > > but the problem is SLUG is currently hosted by NKS, and it seems
> that
> > > > in order to set up Plone Rusty would need more access to the system
> > > > than currently we have.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not just more access, but having zope and plone installed on the host
> > > computer. Perhaps just as important, the ever-changing content of the
> > > SLUG site (yes, really) must be mirrored under zope/plone.
> > >
> > > > Now, as to slug's status as profit or non-profit, as far as I know
> it
> > > > has neither status. Perhaps Paul and/or one of the other officers
> > > > could enlighten us on this subject?
> > >
> > > Well, since no one benefits financially from it, you could say it's
> > > non-profit. But officially, it has no status.
> >
> > Actually any non-profit that is not registered as a non-profit by the
> state
> > can legally have the status of Club/Org
> >
> >
> >
> > On a side note while I think the new site looks great but it seems like
> a
> > lot of hassle for a simple cms. Some times you have to be practical.
> > Nothing wrong with normal php based cms that probably would not need nks
> to
> > install anything. Unless they dont have php or mysql installed, but who
> > doesnt.
> >
>
> It's really not that hard to setup. I have zope + plone setup on my
> laptop now, and it took only a few (30?) minutes to get it working. I
> think it's more practical because it's a really nice web application
> framework, with a model-view-control design. It comes with templates,
> database access, and, well, a just plain good design.
>
> PHP + MySql doesn't provide templates, and doesn't encourage MVC
> design. You can get a template library for it, of course, but why do
> that when zope and plone already exist? Granted I haven't looked into
> PHPNuke very much, but from what I've seen of it, it has a less
> professional feel than plone.
PHP does not need a template system, you leave that up to the programmer of
the cms. You be surprised at some of the mambo and xoops sites i seen . It
not so matter of how long it would take to install more of host dont like
installing things extra. Alot of host like following the lamp and IIS/SQL
standards. any speciality out side that they tend not to like. Personally I
like the plone site. But my history of dealing with hosting companies is
that there BOFH dont like anything that they did not have the vision to
install in the first place.
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