Re: {SPAM?} Re: [SLUG] internet for my little boy.

From: Robert Snyder (res03q8w@gte.net)
Date: Sat Jul 02 2005 - 17:02:37 EDT


michael hast wrote:

> Robert Snyder wrote:
>
>>>
>> I am not a parent so I feel wierd saying this, but I feel it must be
>> said as I watch and take care of little cousins and nephews from time
>> to time that are 6 to 10 years old. So I say to you "WHAT!!!!"
>>
>> You are going to let an internet pc in his room by himself and he is
>> 6. I dont care what software you use. My solution. is keep the
>> internet off that computer unless you are in his room to share the
>> experience, that is the only real way of taking care of business.
>> Software like TV, Video games, and others, are not subitutes for
>> parenting.
>>
>> An offline pc is safe pc.
>>
>>
>>
> Robert, I see your point, but I feel that it deserves a respectful
> rebuttal. Society has these kids growing up so fast that if you pull
> in the reigns too tight they will only REALLY rebel when they are
> given the opportunity. I've got to admit that I'm scared stupid about
> the idea, but rather than sheltering, I want to guide. I have no
> intention of letting the www raise my kid, but I feel like in today's
> world, it's a necessity to be literate in those things. When a
> child is reared in a home where alcohol is a big no-no, the chances of
> them growing up an alcoholic are exponentially greater than if they
> are modeled positive and healthy drinking behavoir as they grow up. I
> want to watch intently what he's doing without him feeling like I'm
> watching over his shoulder. Not that I don't want him to feel
> accountable, just that I don't want him to feel oppressed. Life and
> the nature of existence are oppressive, and the home should be
> nurturing and open. I want him to feel comfortable enough with us to
> be able to talk to us about tough issued when he's a teenager without
> having "cool" hippie-parents but rather having respectable
> guide-parents with absolute moral resolve that will understand and
> gently correct on pertainent issues.
> I want to start him on the internet with extremely strict control
> and slowly, and with guidance ease off the restrictions so that he is
> CAPABLE of making good choices once he is unrestricted. Whether I
> like it or not, someday, I will not be able to control what he does
> and does not do or look at, but if I build the right foundation for
> him now, he will be prepared to be a productive and well-balanced
> member of society with morals and standards unlike most of the kids
> who grew up in my generation. You are right that an on-line pc is not
> safe, but the world is not safe, for that matter. If you shelter
> until a certain age and then drop them into the world, they will
> fail. They will get into debt that will take decades to pay off, they
> will wreck their cars, they will develop addictions to chemicals and
> porn, they will contract diseases and go to jail simply because they
> were not prepared to face the difficulties. When the child is six
> and asking to be able to use the internet, it is the right time to
> grant it--kind of. I basically want to set it up to where the browser
> will only go to certain prescribed web sites at first, and through
> guidance and education, ease him into full acces over the next ten
> years. I couldn't watch his every move and action until he's eighteen
> even if that would do him any good. It's a difficult balancing act to
> be a good, effective parent.

Here is the rebutal to your rebutal. I agree that there are times that
he should not feel that you are watching over him all the time. But here
my thing. my cousins dont feel that I am watching over them I dont
touch the mouse or the keyboard or anything But we sit down and have a
family time. They want to go see Cartoon Network.com I let them handle
it but I say oh lets click on this and see what happens.... Then ther
are times that they are by them selves but I am constantly going back
and forth between the rooms to go to other rooms (this would be the
family room) they are obvious to the fact that out of the corner of my
eye when I heading to another room i checking up on them.

6 is just to young to let a internet enable pc be in his room. a pc
should be in his room just not one with the anything other than basic
network access blocking out all internet access via host file.

or another possible solution is be over his shoulder with out him
knowing about it.

install vnc set it up to you have two logins one that just a view
screen only and another with full control ( i reccomend tightvnc) be in
another room and jus have his machine screen on in the background while
you do other stuff. Yes it looking over his shoulder but he wont know
about it. And this helps keep him safe. ( the debian junior section
might have something to aid in your content blocking quest.

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