I'm new to the list, last night, but couldn't resist reply...
I've never once seen this behavior and I've had 3 OSX systems over the
past 4 years. In addition, many of my friends use OSX as their main
system and I've never once heard of anything like this.
In my experience OSX is about as robust as you get when it comes to
recovering from hung apps. In some cases I've had to powercycle the
system to regain control and never once did I render my mac unbootable.
I've never had an implicit kill render the system dead either.
Might this be a coincidence hardware failure? I can tell you of the 10
or so systems in my friendly circles we are 100% on hardware failures.
Every one of them has had a bad disk, or the LED backlight went dead,
G5's with bad backplanes that cause the system to reboot when USB
accessories are plugged in... When people ask I always say I love the
mac but you can expect to send it to Houston at least once. I'm 3 for
three. Video card in my cube, LED in my 15" pbook, HDD in my 12" pbook.
You might just be another lucky one. As for permissions on Symantec
Utilities CD's, I wouldn't know...I'm legacy Veritas. If this does
interest people perhaps I will use my means to find out?
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Eben King
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:10 PM
To: slug@nks.net
Subject: Re: [SLUG] OT: booting Mac]
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Robert Snyder wrote:
> Eben King wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Robert Snyder wrote:
> >
> >>Branko wrote:
> >>
> >>>Lessons learned (for my sis): "don't force quit while the beach
ball is
> >>>turning" (must be Mac speak).
> >[...]
> >>"don't force quit while the beach ball is turning"
> >>
> >>Translation, Dont Xkill a program while the cursor is an hourglass.
> >
> >s/Xkill a program/force a restart without unmounting or flushing
caches/,
> >apparently.
> >
> >But if a program gets wedged, I don't see any not-bad options. If
it's just
> >taking a long time, yeah, I agree.
> >
> I found OSX disk utility to be useless when something happens like
> this. I still use a two step method of repair.
>
> an old Norton system utilies based off of OS 9 use there symantechs
disk
> repair. and then OSX installer to repair the permissions.
Do aftermarket apps have wonky permissions (that the OS X installer
wouldn't
know about)?
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