On pre OSX version of Systemworks by symantech they have had the
tendency to mess up permissions of files that he corrected. Mainly
because HFS+ orginally was not a journaled fs with permissions but a
simply overlay they had done when they were working on osx. So
previous Classic OSes 9.0 and later could read the OSX disk. ( 8.0
-8.6 which had hfs+ support did not support long file names) which is
one of the reasons xpostfacto needs os 9.0 to function correctly.
But I just do both to play it on the safe side.
On 7/24/05, Brian Radwanski <brian_radwanski@symantec.com> wrote:
> I'm new to the list, last night, but couldn't resist reply...
>
> I've never once seen this behavior and I've had 3 OSX systems over the
> past 4 years. In addition, many of my friends use OSX as their main
> system and I've never once heard of anything like this.
>
> In my experience OSX is about as robust as you get when it comes to
> recovering from hung apps. In some cases I've had to powercycle the
> system to regain control and never once did I render my mac unbootable.
> I've never had an implicit kill render the system dead either.
>
> Might this be a coincidence hardware failure? I can tell you of the 10
> or so systems in my friendly circles we are 100% on hardware failures.
> Every one of them has had a bad disk, or the LED backlight went dead,
> G5's with bad backplanes that cause the system to reboot when USB
> accessories are plugged in... When people ask I always say I love the
> mac but you can expect to send it to Houston at least once. I'm 3 for
> three. Video card in my cube, LED in my 15" pbook, HDD in my 12" pbook.
>
>
> You might just be another lucky one. As for permissions on Symantec
> Utilities CD's, I wouldn't know...I'm legacy Veritas. If this does
> interest people perhaps I will use my means to find out?
>
> Brian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Eben King
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:10 PM
> To: slug@nks.net
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] OT: booting Mac]
>
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Robert Snyder wrote:
>
> > Eben King wrote:
> >
> > >On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Robert Snyder wrote:
> > >
> > >>Branko wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Lessons learned (for my sis): "don't force quit while the beach
> ball is
> > >>>turning" (must be Mac speak).
> > >[...]
> > >>"don't force quit while the beach ball is turning"
> > >>
> > >>Translation, Dont Xkill a program while the cursor is an hourglass.
> > >
> > >s/Xkill a program/force a restart without unmounting or flushing
> caches/,
> > >apparently.
> > >
> > >But if a program gets wedged, I don't see any not-bad options. If
> it's just
> > >taking a long time, yeah, I agree.
> > >
> > I found OSX disk utility to be useless when something happens like
> > this. I still use a two step method of repair.
> >
> > an old Norton system utilies based off of OS 9 use there symantechs
> disk
> > repair. and then OSX installer to repair the permissions.
>
> Do aftermarket apps have wonky permissions (that the OS X installer
> wouldn't
> know about)?
>
> --
> -eben ebQenW1@EtaRmpTabYayU.rIr.OcoPm home.tampabay.rr.com/hactar
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