Robert Snyder wrote:
>
> I need clarification.
>
Not really. You're just being argumentative, as usual.
> Orignal Napster=Piracy
Yes and no. Although declared illegal as a service, I have no doubt some
of what they offered was completely legal.
> Corporate Napster = Fleecing of America (But Oddly Legal)
>
Opinions vary, but the law appears to be on their side. And I'm not
prepared to argue the point.
> Bittorrent It can be used for good and evil But if I say well There is
> a the new WeeOS torrent on Demoniod is that a no no. Weeos TheWeeWee
> Edition while perfectly legal is on a site that tracks less than legal
> downloads. I would usethem as they offere free torrent tracking
> servers. where are important for the use of Bittorenet.
>
As I mentioned before, most or all services like bittorrent can be used
for legal or illegal downloads. While getting a legal download from a
service known predominantly for illegal downloads might be acceptable, I
would still discourage (not forbid) its discussion here. And WeeOS would
be a free download regardless, right?
> Also by whose definition are we using the word legality. Microsoft
> often questions and states the unsure legal nature of Linux and several
> MS Patents. I not saying there right just showing it is a matter of
> preception , and it would be nice if you laid out your definition of
> illegal behavor that you do not want on the list.
Obviously, no one cares about Microsoft's definition of illegal unless
it actually *is* illegal. Illegality isn't a matter of perception; it's
a matter of the law. A copy of MI3 free for download is obviously
illegal. In fact, I'd venture to say that nearly any free download of a
movie is probably illegal. Similar situation with a free download of
music, unless the artist specifically intended their music to be
downloaded freely. I couldn't care less whether anyone thinks it
*should* or *shouldn't* be illegal. I'm only concerned by what *is*
illegal. If you *must* have a definition of "illegal", I'm sure any
reasonably good dictionary would provide several acceptable ones. The
need to "interpret", bend and twist definitions usually means the reader
has some other agenda which the actual definition stands in the way of.
All of these issues can be avoided by staying well clear of the line.
I don't want to have to prepare a list of what downloads and services
are "approved" or "disapproved" by SLUG. That's not the point. I'm not
particularly fond of hard-and-fast rules. They're really only necessary
when people don't exercise proper judgment.
Let's be realistic here. I only recall one time when this has even come
up on the list, so it's not a particularly hot topic anyway. I'm just
advocating caution to avoid encouraging illegal or unethical/immoral
behavior.
If this still isn't clear enough for you, you're welcome to send your
posts to me first for moderating before I forward them to the list for you.
This whole subject was really a footnote in the first place. Let's not
belabor it further.
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