Paul, no you sum it up pretty well for me Just wondering what that line
was.
On 6/6/06, Paul M Foster <paulf@quillandmouse.com> wrote:
>
> Robert Snyder wrote:
>
> >
> > I need clarification.
> >
>
> Not really. You're just being argumentative, as usual.
>
> > Orignal Napster=Piracy
>
> Yes and no. Although declared illegal as a service, I have no doubt some
> of what they offered was completely legal.
>
> > Corporate Napster = Fleecing of America (But Oddly Legal)
> >
>
> Opinions vary, but the law appears to be on their side. And I'm not
> prepared to argue the point.
>
> > Bittorrent It can be used for good and evil But if I say well There is
> > a the new WeeOS torrent on Demoniod is that a no no. Weeos TheWeeWee
> > Edition while perfectly legal is on a site that tracks less than legal
> > downloads. I would usethem as they offere free torrent tracking
> > servers. where are important for the use of Bittorenet.
> >
>
> As I mentioned before, most or all services like bittorrent can be used
> for legal or illegal downloads. While getting a legal download from a
> service known predominantly for illegal downloads might be acceptable, I
> would still discourage (not forbid) its discussion here. And WeeOS would
> be a free download regardless, right?
>
> > Also by whose definition are we using the word legality. Microsoft
> > often questions and states the unsure legal nature of Linux and several
> > MS Patents. I not saying there right just showing it is a matter of
> > preception , and it would be nice if you laid out your definition of
> > illegal behavor that you do not want on the list.
>
> Obviously, no one cares about Microsoft's definition of illegal unless
> it actually *is* illegal. Illegality isn't a matter of perception; it's
> a matter of the law. A copy of MI3 free for download is obviously
> illegal. In fact, I'd venture to say that nearly any free download of a
> movie is probably illegal. Similar situation with a free download of
> music, unless the artist specifically intended their music to be
> downloaded freely. I couldn't care less whether anyone thinks it
> *should* or *shouldn't* be illegal. I'm only concerned by what *is*
> illegal. If you *must* have a definition of "illegal", I'm sure any
> reasonably good dictionary would provide several acceptable ones. The
> need to "interpret", bend and twist definitions usually means the reader
> has some other agenda which the actual definition stands in the way of.
>
> All of these issues can be avoided by staying well clear of the line.
>
> I don't want to have to prepare a list of what downloads and services
> are "approved" or "disapproved" by SLUG. That's not the point. I'm not
> particularly fond of hard-and-fast rules. They're really only necessary
> when people don't exercise proper judgment.
>
> Let's be realistic here. I only recall one time when this has even come
> up on the list, so it's not a particularly hot topic anyway. I'm just
> advocating caution to avoid encouraging illegal or unethical/immoral
> behavior.
>
> If this still isn't clear enough for you, you're welcome to send your
> posts to me first for moderating before I forward them to the list for
> you.
>
> This whole subject was really a footnote in the first place. Let's not
> belabor it further.
>
> --
> Paul M. Foster
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