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I agree Ken - I was trying to get /past/ arguing about the operating
system, and focus on the issue - i.e. "Windows is evil, fine, granted,
yada yada yada... now /given/ that fact, and that I am still stuck with
it, how do I resolve the issue?"
But now that you mention it, half my user "virus panics" aren't viruses
at all, but misbehaving Windows drivers. Mac resolved the issue by
controlling the hardware you run Mac on, and Linux resolved the issue by
being open and letting the users fix things. Microsoft hasn't resolved
the issue at all. If you run Windows on Mac hardware, you don't have
those issues, because Mac gave a #@$% about the drivers they give you in
bootcamp, and made good ones. Microsoft isn't so much evil as frustrating.
Back to the original issue...
I emailed a couple of the anti-malware software companies, and no one
has gotten back to me yet. I can't believe this is such a complicated
issue - does anyone /not/ /using/ /Linux/ encrypt their mail?
Come to think of it, I once had an accountant that didn't...
- - Scott Grizzard
http://www.scottgrizzard.com
scott@scottgrizzard.com
Ken Elliott wrote:
> Pete >> Micro$oft and Internet just do not mix. Never trust them together.
>
> Pete >> Tell the client, don't use Window$ on the outside Internet.
>
> You can't tell clients what to do. Photoshop and AutoCAD users can't use
> Linux.
>
> Scott is trying to resolve an issue and seeks data. But your responses are
> simply inaccurate dogma that does nothing to help him.
>
> Scott >> > Window$ is evil and vulnerable beyond compare.
>
> Oh Scott, not you too? A product is evil? Sorry, a product can't be evil.
> A person can.
>
> Linux, Mac and Windows all have security holes and all can be compromised.
> Compaired to BSD, all three are like swiss cheese. Bashing Windows makes
> Linux fans look like nuts and hurts the cause. I have run many differnet
> operating systems and all can be used safely if properly configured.
> Windows is full of problems, but anyone that thinks Linux is a magic bullet
> is due for a surprise. All systems need proper configureation and
> management if you want to be "internet safe".
>
> This is a Linux advocacy mail list, not an anti-Microsoft mail list. Those
> are quite different things. Can we stick to Pro-Linux activities and stop
> the useless bashing?
>
> Ken Elliott
> =====================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:34 AM
> To: slug@nks.net
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Antivirus and Email Encryption - both Linux and... that
> other OS
>
> Scott Grizzard wrote:
> I agree completely and wholeheartedly about your recommendations -
> Window$ is evil and vulnerable beyond compare. /Given/ /that/, can I
> send/receive encrypted email in a way that is still scanned by antivirus
> on the client's computer?
>
> In an ideal world, the recipient would be using Linux, and there would
> be no need, but, in an ideal world, blah blah blah.
>
> Iff I use Windows, and if I use gnupg encryption (or S/MIME), would the
> anti-malware on the local computer scan the message /before/ it was
> read, or is the anti-malware bypassed completely, leaving a giant
> security hole no matter what OS I am using?
>
> I have been looking all over the web for an answer, and I have found
> /nothing/ so far.
>
>> Hi Scott,
>
>> Now WHAT does THAT tell you? If you find nothing there very well might
>> be NOTHING! Tell the client, don't use Window$ on the outside Internet.
>
>> Everything that ventures outside of the office should be Linux. Unless
>> they are rich. Then they can try mac, if they like.
>
>> That said, you could arrange to have it scanned first by setting up a
>> Linux firewall/Internet server that did everything you wanted done to
>> all the packets before it let them out to the rest of the office. All
>> traffic to or from the outside world through this physical box.
>
>> http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/113821
>
>> That way, the Window$ junkies would never see Linux, yet everything they
>> saw would be sanitized. Of course, then the boss couldn't hole up and
>> watch p*rn. I think these are called Linux gateway servers or something
>> like that.
>
>>>>> I am being forced to use "that other OS" in a project, and I had a
>>>>> question about email malware protection.
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> If your project for the client does not directly involve email, just set
>>>> up firewall, anti malware and turn off all "Windows Services" that your
>>>> client is not using. Then set up a Linux box or notebook for your own
>>>> email at that site and call it a day.
>>>>
>>>> Strongly recommend the client also set up a Linux box for all Internet
>>>> use, and clearly disclaim any liability if your advice in this regard is
>>>> not adhered to.
>>>>
>>>> If your "other OS" project could work disconnected from the outside
>>>> Internet so much the better.
>>>>
>>>> Micro$oft and Internet just do not mix. Never trust them together.
>>
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