Re: [SLUG] SuSE 10.1 Split personality...

From: John Pugh (jpugh@novell.com)
Date: Thu Aug 17 2006 - 15:20:26 EDT


>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 2:41 PM, in message
<620c90570608171141n71875481sb393c977cd8d9cb6@mail.gmail.com>, "Chuck
Hast"
<wchast@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/17/06, John Pugh <jpugh@novell.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 11:38 PM, in message
>> <620c90570608162038y73ca5e53ia23edf7f1d6ecf61@mail.gmail.com>,
"Chuck Hast"
>> <wchast@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Well, I still have not been able to come up with a good fix for
the
> automount
>> > of the CF cards and other removable storage devices (CD and DVD's
excep-
>> > ted), and I have also found that I no longer have audio, all on my
laptop.
>> >
>> > Interesting thing is that the desktop machine I upgraded works
great, yes
>> > the
>> > update part and YaST are as many people seem to point out,
'ssllooww' but
>> > beyond that the desktop works just fine, CF disk, SD cards, and
other USB
>> > storage automounts just fine, audio works just fine. What is even
more
> inter-
>> > esting is that during the upgrade process, the machine lost power,
I
> thought
>> > it was really going to be a mess (it was during that part where
they
>> > indicate
>> > you should not stop the process) indeed it worked quite well,
picked up
>> > where
>> > the power loss had left it, and finished the job, it even handled
the
>> > ndiswrapper
>> > thing nicely, I can see environmental data that was not being
passed from
>> > the wifi card to the tools due to ndiswrapper, now it works real
nice.
>> >
>> > So should I continue to battle with the laptop, or should I back
my data up
>> > again and wipe it and try a new 10.1 install or should I back off
to 10.0
>> > which really worked real well on the laptop with a minimum of
issues. If I
>> > can get 10.1 running there are some nice things that it has that I
do not
>> > see on 10.0.
>> >
>> > In general given the response of two different machines I am
really sort
>> > of let down after doing installs using 10.0 not only in my home
but at my
>> > work place and at friends homes. I am not sure after these
problems that
>> > I would recommend 10.1, I sure hope that they clear these issues
up prior
>> > to 10.2.
>>
>> Having not followed your issues, I'm unable to say one way or
another,
> however SLED10 does have a lot of the additional fixes that have been
put
> into the openSUSE 10.2 code (as of alpha3). I have not had any
removable
> device issues ( I don't have a CF card, but a SD and smartmedia) so I
would
> be interested to see output from udevmonitor when you plug in the
device to
> see if it's being seen correctly.
>> Personally, I'd take a stab at SLED10 instead since you have a lot
more than
> openSUSE and it's still freely downloadable.
>>
>
> Here is the thread;
> Permission denied to CF card.
> That will give you a idea of what we were discussing with the
removal
> media.
>
> I bought the box (a few weeks ago) and thought that it would be as
> free of problems as 10.0 was (it did real well, most things that I
fixed
> were just small things as far as I can remember, all installs
regardless
> of the system have to be polished up, but 10.2 sort of went
backwards
> on the laptop (IBM Thinkpad T42) which sort of appeared to just
work.
>
> Now I find that not only does the removable media (CF and SD type
> type devices) not work, but my sound does not appear to be working.
>
>
I can understand that with 10.2 since it's only alpha3. Sorry if I'm
requesting info that you already provided, but what is the sound card on
your machine? Intel has had problems and there is a fix/workaround. The
CF card I'll need more detail...permission denied can be a plethora of
issues from it being locked to it being mounted RO to there being a udev
issue. If you can give me the udevmonitor output when you put it in and
the details of what happens afterwards (spare the list if you wish),
I'll see if I can help out and if anything search/input a bug on it.

JP
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