Re: [SLUG] Fun machines

From: Matthew Rogers (matt@runithard.com)
Date: Mon May 25 2009 - 23:19:04 EDT


Response to....

"I'm sorry, but this is just flat out wrong on so many levels...Dual(or
more)-boot is very common... exhibit A: factory recovery partitions."

What? Hold on me head hurts......... OK here we go.... Sure you CAN
make it work, but prepare for tons of config file editing and TONS of
manual user management. Wait a sec.... factory recovery partitions?
Dual boot? Hardly the spirit of this conversation and not user managed.

Dual boot is NOT common between Linux distros. Most distros offer some
sort of auto configuration to work with Windows and have very little if
any support for other Linux distributions.

--Matt

Daniel Jarboe wrote:
> I'm sorry, but this is just flat out wrong on so many levels. Any
> distro worth its salt offers the option to install grub in the
> bootsector of the installed partition instead of the MBR. That way
> each installation gets its own grub configuration/installation in its
> partition, and they don't step on each other's configs with updates, etc.
>
> Dual(or more)-boot is very common... exhibit A: factory recovery
> partitions.
>
> All the major distros offer the option of where to install the
> bootloader, and the option usually isn't all THAT hidden. And yes,
> that includes Ubuntu (which was specifically mentioned). Somewhere
> near the end of the installation there's an advanced options checkbox
> or something, which when selected asks where you want to install grub
> (default is MBR), and something about participating in their tracking
> system.
>
> I don't mean to discourage you from trying VMs which are very handy
> things (though maybe less so on a netbook)... but the premise that
> dual-boot configs are uncommon and only going to lead trouble is false.
>
> ~ Daniel
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Matthew Rogers <matt@runithard.com
> <mailto:matt@runithard.com>> wrote:
>
> Chuck,
>
> In the user world multiple OS's is not common(/flame before it
> starts, if your on this this you are NOT common). I think you
> are going to find it's going to take a lot of work to keep it all
> straight. When an OS updates a kernel it's going to reinstall
> grub to use the new kernel. Expect Ubuntu to rewrite grub often
> (1 time a month? maybe less, Ubuntu is bleeding edge....)
>
> Good luck! Also, many OS's offer that Live option via USB etc.
> however, at the end of the day I think you'll find having a
> couple of files floating around and kicking off another OS in a VM
> will eliminate the hassles of all of this.
>
>
> --Cheers
>
> Matthew Rogers
>
>
>
> Chuck Hast wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Mark Banschbach, SFO
> <mrbear37@yahoo.com <mailto:mrbear37@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Cheuck,
>
> 2 things..
>
> 1( I believe you should be able to edit the grub config
> file to point to the list of distros ..
>
> Second.. my wife wants ta know.. which hard drive you got
> for your Lenovo as she has one.. and how much RAM you have
> in your netbook ?
>
>
>
>
> Mark,
> What is happening is each time I put a distro on the disk the
> stinking thing
> writes over my old grub files. I recall that they used to look
> and see what was
> on the disk and either re-do the whole thing and add the new
> OS to the list,
> or over write the old grub with a new one adding the new OS
> really ended up
> with the same thing.
>
> As to the HD, it got it some time back as a external HD, it is
> a 500 G WD,
> as to the RAM, it had 1G, when I got it the guy at compusa,
> recommended
> that I go ahead and upgrade to 2G, it was only I think $22
> more, so I got the
> memory and upgraded it, was a great move.
>
>
>
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