Re: [SLUG] Fun machines

From: Matthew Rogers (matt@runithard.com)
Date: Tue May 26 2009 - 11:21:57 EDT


You still have the manage the main boot loader. Your not gaining much
there hero.

Also, this statement:

>I read your claims about tons of "manual user management"... and in
the next few sentences you go on to claim factory
>recovery partitions are not in the same spirit as dual-boot because it
is "not user managed". That's exactly the whole
>point... there isn't this big manual user management that you keep
claiming as long as you install your other bootloaders in
>their own partitions... exactly like is done for factory restore or
any other similar configs. I'm not sure I understand what
>you are saying is wrong with that... it doesn't count because it's too
easy? Why make it hard
>on yourself?

A recovery partition is NOT a usable OS in the sense of dual booting.
It's just an auto reimage tool. Hence, the SPIRIT is different as the
use is completely different in scope and practice.

--Matt

Daniel Jarboe wrote:
> > "I'm sorry, but this is just flat out wrong on so many
> levels...Dual(or more)-boot
> > is very common... exhibit A: factory recovery partitions."
> >
> > What? Hold on me head hurts......... OK here we go.... Sure you CAN
> make it
> > work, but prepare for tons of config file editing and TONS of manual
> user
> > management. Wait a sec.... factory recovery partitions? Dual boot?
> Hardly
> > the spirit of this conversation and not user managed.
> >
> > Dual boot is NOT common between Linux distros. Most distros offer
> some sort
> > of auto configuration to work with Windows and have very little if
> any support
> > for other Linux distributions.
>
> Tell your Linux installater to write the boot-loader in the partition
> instead of the MBR. As each distro updates, it updates its own grub
> config in its own partition... not stepping on each other. Maybe
> there are some obscure distros that insist on overwriting your MBR,
> but all the majors offer the option to write it to its own partition.
>
> I read your claims about tons of "manual user management"... and in
> the next few sentences you go on to claim factory recovery partitions
> are not in the same spirit as dual-boot because it is "not user
> managed". That's exactly the whole point... there isn't this big
> manual user management that you keep claiming as long as you install
> your other bootloaders in their own partitions... exactly like is done
> for factory restore or any other similar configs. I'm not sure I
> understand what you are saying is wrong with that... it doesn't count
> because it's too easy? Why make it hard on yourself?
>
> It takes more work and planning if you want multiple linux distros to
> share the same grub configuration... so don't do it that way. Do it
> the normal way, each installation managing its own grub config. You
> can have a single one manage the MBR grub installation that points to
> the others, or just a generic MBR grub config that does nothing but
> chainload the different partition bootloaders. The different
> installations don't need to know anything about each other, so this
> notion of distros with little support for other distros is true but
> irrelevant.
>
> ~ Daniel
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