On Saturday 16 June 2001 21:24, you wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 04:59:03PM -0400, Smitty wrote:
> > We have an outlet for eccentricity, the slug-politics list. This policy
> > here, as was articulated by somebody quite sometime ago is: "No Rules,
> > Just Fight" which implies totally free speech. We do not overtly or
> > covertly attempt behavior mod on anyone Isaiah. This list has no
> > censorship, no scripts that alter curse words or phrases that may offend
> > the moral codes of certain folks. By not subscribing to the
> > slug-politics list, one is opting out of being exposed to controversial
> > subjects and rough language. My gratitude goes to Paul Foster for
> > starting this list. It is really an excellent idea. The main list is
> > for linux related matters presented in a neutral manner. We want the
> > maximum number of folks getting help and more knowledge about linux as is
> > possible. For those who wish to stray from that subject or just discuss
> > it using vulgarity, we have the politics list. With most lugs, you do
> > NOT have such a choice. I have been a member of three other lugs and
> > only one of which was orderly and productive like the slug main list is.
> > The other two of which the ncsu list was one, regularly degenerated into
> > name calling and partisan politics.
>
> You were *NOT* a member of the NCSU LUG. You subscribed to the mailing
> list for *maybe* a few months. I've been a member of the NCSU LUG since
> 1997. It's certainly does NOT "regularly degenerate" into "name calling
> and partison politics". It's rather tame actually, and if you do or say
> something stupid, expect it to be kindly pointed out to you.
Isaiah, that is what I meant. Obviously, I cannot attend meetings in a
location hundreds of miles away. And in the two months I received the
postings, I witnessed it degenerating several times.
>
> > The Oxford English dictionary. The term goes back long before psychiatry
> > existed and is part of the english language. I do not care to use the
> > DSM IV as psychiatry is not a science, but a government financed control
> > operation. Periodically, these psychiatrists get together and make up
> > some "diseases" that they can "treat" to put more money in their pockets.
> > Just go back and compare the DSM III with IV, or II with III or IV and
> > see for yourself. Smitty
>
> I have copies of the DSM 3 and 4 here. If saying that about
> psychiatry makes you feel better, I'm happy for you; there are countless
> others it helps every day.
I have yet to meet one of these "countless others" you speak about.
The brutal treatments, electric shock, chemical straightjacket drugs,
abusive practices, have harmed many people. I suggest you read some
of Thomas Szasz's books.
Smitty
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