Re: [SLUG-POL] The Lunatic state of California

From: Smitty (76543a@mpinet.net)
Date: Sat Jun 16 2001 - 23:22:02 EDT


On Saturday 16 June 2001 22:02, you wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 05:40:06PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > Eccentricity != productivity. Swearing != "keeping the faith". I have no
> > problem with eccentrics (_obviously_ we have some). Some people would
> > call me one. What I have a problem with is conduct that isn't civil.
> > Swearing is not necessarily an un_sub_bing offense on the SLUG list,
> > unless it's constant and gratuituous, and the person is warned and does
> > not comply.
> >
> > Given our recent successes as a LUG, I'd have to argue that our "civil"
> > conduct on the SLUG list has not made us any less productive.
>
> Compared to who? We started LinuxExpo ;)
>
> > Baruther! You obviously don't know the story of how psychs come up with
> > stuff for the DSM. It's been likened to the process of ordering take-out.
> > The psychs demonstrably cannot ascertain psychosis, explain why it
> > happens, nor cure it. About the only thing they can do is produce it.
> > According to the "regular" dictionary, "psychotic" is _not_ a medical
> > term. And were it a medical term, this would imply that it has some
> > physical cause, which has not been proven, nor will it ever be, except in
> > a vanishingly small percentage of cases.
>
> I'm really not sure where you heard that; sounds like an urban legend
> to me. Please don't abbreviate psychiatrists; "psychs" can be used for
> psychologists and psychiatrists, two very different fields.
>
> Psychiatry does frequently prescribe medication to victims of well
> known, well established, well proven physical ailments involving the
> chemistry of the brain. You must've been under a rock for the last 50
> years to not understand that.

You must have been under a rock for a long time to believe that crap.
Psychiatry is a government financed control operation that uses drugs,
electric shock and duress to make it's victims more acceptable politically.
Psych treatments often backfire and result in mass murders that perhaps
you are not away of.
>
> MOST (where most is the largest group in a group of groups)
> descriptions in the DSM volumes diagram extreme cases, this is true; it's
> up to the interpretation of the physician (remember, psychiatrists are
> medical doctors, too, which last I checked, was a field of science) to
> determine it's relation to the patient. We're not machines, nearly
> everybody requires slightly different treatments.

You are mistaken. "Everybody" does not require "treatments".
>
> FWIW, dict.org, accessing several "regular" dictionaries, disagrees
> with you.
>
> psychotic
> adj : (medicine) suffering from psychosis
>
> ^^^
> HEY, how 'bout that. Funny, that is.
>
> n : a person afflicted with psychosis [syn: psychotic person,
> psycho]
>
> > Paul



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