>>How many here ONLY use or rely on Linux?
I fall into the 'currently evolving' category.
I'm still tied to AutoCAD, SolidWorks, Rhino, Dreamweaver, Flash, Adobe
Indesign, Photoshop, Illustrator and Pinnacle Studio on the client side.
You'll notice there's no Microsoft products in the list. I can run any OS
that can run these apps, but right now, only Windows runs it all. Mac OS X
runs all but the CAD software. Frankly, I could care less about the OS I
run, as long as it runs. My Win2K SP6 has been solid for over a year
without a single crash. I've only had 3 virus hits in 20+ years, largely
because of good practice, not anything to do with the OS. Even though I've
been a MS beta tester for years, I've stopped at W2K. No XP for me, thanks.
I've decided to move my efforts to Linux.
Linux-wise, I'm running SuSE 9.0 on one machine, 9.1 at work on a server,
and I'm building another box that will be running multiple flavors of Linux.
I'm trying to insure that all my code is as platform independent as
possible. All the code I've written in C over the last 20 years still runs,
on both Win and Unix/Linux. Nothing fancy, mind you. None of my old Basic
code can be compiled, not necessarily a bad thing.
>From an IT/Server prospective, Linux is pretty darn complete. I'm moving
all my server efforts toward Linux and will no longer do anything that
_requires_ Win Server. I won't exclude it, but open source lets me become
OS neutral.
Desktop-wise, if I had to move today, I'd be forced to the Mac. And I do
mean "forced". I wish we had a OS X - like API which would allow the Mac
Developers to move their apps to Linux easily.
Ken Elliott
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From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Steve Szmidt
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:20 PM
To: slug@nks.net
Subject: Re: [SLUG] another reason for linux - part two
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On Thursday 12 August 2004 10:01 am, Steve Szmidt wrote:
> On Thursday 12 August 2004 06:52 am, Robert Foxworth wrote:
> > Another reason for linux ...
> >
> > Adding SP2 to a Windows XP install will disable raw socket support.
> > This breaks the functionality of programs such as nmap-windows
> > version that use raw sockets. MS acknowledges that this was done on
> > purpose.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Which brings up an interesting question. How many here use XP, or
> anything past w2k SP 2?
Thank you all for your replies. They wil be tabbed and reported to the
proper authorities!
Kidding aside, the "interesting" part, was simply how pervasive is windows
in
the Linux community. The ratio of using both.
The reason I went all Linux (except for games - w2k SP2) is that I did not
want to have to depend on MS in any way. The SP2 license on w2k, as many
already know, is when they changed the EULA to give them insight into YOUR
computer and the ability to put software into it without you being able to
stop them. (Some settings make it look like you can stop them but it does
not.)
To me it's a philosophical decision, and partly ethical. I don't want to
flow
power to someone acting in a "criminal" way.
But I also have realized the purity of the Unix design, and it's far saner
to
invest efforts into it. In other words I like investing into things that has
longevity. Something that I know has sound foundation to build on and does
not force me anywhere I don't want to go.
I'm fortunate to having moved myself into a situation where there's no
reason
to use windows in any productive way. None.
True there are some tradeoffs, but they are very minor and I have
workarounds.
So being that most of us, at least the ones with a couple of years on our
back, have lived through the windows "evolution" and depended on it. We all
realized that there had to be a better solution.
This brings it into the second interesting question.
How many here ONLY use or rely on Linux?
I.e. you can have it but only use it strictly for amusement, and would be
none
the worse if it disappeared.
- --
Steve
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
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