You're correct. I'm just waiting for my adapter to come in to see what kind of
issues (if any) I'll have...
slug@nks.net wrote:
> >>First off, you _can_ use those on a Sun system.
>
> But didn't this thread start off by someone looking for a KVM switch,
> complaining about Sun's use of different connectors?
>
> >>Secondly, sounds like personal preference to me.
>
> Of course. That was my point. I want freedom of choice, not to be locked
> into what one vendor chooses to make available. And to be able to use
> common KVM switches found at local stores.
>
> >>You seemingly make the case that Sun does not offer equivalents.
>
> As far as I know, Sun doesn't. Here's examples of what kind of input
> devices I'm talking about:
> http://www.fingerworks.com/
> http://www.maltron.com/
>
> >>Maybe you've heard of Looking Glass?
>
> When I looked at it, it seems like "bling" to me. There's lots of 3D
> interface work, and over 15 years, none of it has ever taken hold, because
> none of it has ever proven to be anything but "cool demo-ware". I'm amused
> by them calling it "true 3D" when it displays on a 2D device. Even the CAD
> world has still been dragging in 2D to 3D conversion. It seems cool to flip
> a window around to make notes, but when you use it, you hide the content.
> So, you end up flipping the screen back-and-forth. A pop-up note window
> works far better. Another case of looks cool, doesn't really work well, and
> eats CPU cycles, while obsolescing older hardware. Great for Sun, bad for
> users. Can't see what this has to do with the issue of special connectors
> preventing the use a standard KVM switches, though.
>
> >> poor assumptions (asusual from PC users)
>
> Odd, that you assume I'm "just" a PC user - a poor assumption on _your_
> part.
>
> My point is that use of common connectors and interfaces is desirable, when
> possible. That allows us for example, to buy a KVM switch from a local
> store. You offer no case as to why Sun's choice is of any advantage. If
> there is, please be so kind as to educate me.
>
> Ken Elliott
>
> =====================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Bryan J. Smith
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 8:41 PM
> To: slug@nks.net
> Subject: [SLUG] RE: Need adapter for SUN SPARC monitor -- poor assumptions
> (asusual from PC users)
>
> On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 14:04, Ken Elliott wrote:
> > I believe a case can be made that PC _IS_ better, for standard items
> > like a keyboard and mouse. I love my MS Natural keyboard, and my Logitech
> mouse.
> > I can't use them on a Sun. Sun's choice of unique connectors do not
> > seem to offer any advantage, and certainly limits choices.
>
> First off, you _can_ use those on a Sun system.
>
> Secondly, sounds like personal preference to me. You seemingly make the
> case that Sun does not offer equivalents.
>
> Lastly, SUN _does_ support USB now.
>
> > There are many specialized input devices that people need. People
> > with disabilities, for example.
>
> You assume SUN does not provide such? Poor assumption.
>
> Sun is _the_ company that has provided the code and support in GNOME for
> extra accessibility. They won the Hellen Keller award for it.
>
> Maybe you've heard of Looking Glass? It's not about 3D, but next generation
> _input_ as well as output.
>
> --
> Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Communities don't have rights. Only individuals in the community have
> rights. ... That idea of community rights is firmly rooted in the
> 'Communist Manifesto.'" -- Michael Badnarik
>
>
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